[UA] Cliomancy major charges up for grabs.

[Shawn Isenhart]

I wonder - maybe she was a Clio who was trying an inverse grab of the 
charge.  If she _makes_ everyone think that she has been there, does she 
get the charge?  After all, history is just a matter of perception...

-Shawn

graver wrote:
> */Russell Rayburn <rusrayburn at gmail.com>/* wrote:
>
>     On 4/3/07, Ben Baer wrote:
>     > My links are a bit sketchy sine I haven't seen this in a couple
>     years. Wiki
>     > offers this ". The accuracy of that story has since been
>     questioned, not
>     > least because motorcycles are specifically forbidden inside the
>     30km reactor
>     > exclusion zone, which can only be accessed through permanently
>     manned
>     > checkpoints. Chernobyl tour guides and tourists to Chernobyl
>     have claimed
>     > that that Filatova visited the Chernobyl Exclusion Zone only as
>     part of an
>     > organized tour.[1] Chernobyl tour guide Yuriy Tatarchuk recalls that
>     > Filatova "booked a tour, wore a leather biker jacket and posed for
>     > pictures." Her website appeared soon after.[2]"
>     > Neil Gaimans Blog, where I first heard about this has some links
>     to the
>     > debunking
>     >
>     http://www.neilgaiman.com/journal/2004/05/fraud-exposed-and-true-thing.asp
>     > including a link to an Urban Exploration forum where they point
>     out the
>     > inconsistencies in her story, and a couple people who have
>     talked with the
>     > Cherynobyl administration, including the guide who gave Elena
>     her tour.
>     >
>
>     Heard some of that as well, although the counter argument is Filatova
>     bribed her way in to parts of the exclusion zone. When the authorites
>     ( whom she didn't pay off ) started bitching, she supposedly clamed up
>     to avoid getting anyone in trouble.
>
>     Also, since her bike is in a few of the shots I suspect she made it
>     into a few places. Yeah, it could be photoshopped, but to my unexpert
>     eye it didn't seem so.
>
>     Inconsistencies could be explained away as poetic license.
>
>     Not saying I completely buy it, but I don't think there's enough out
>     there for a full debunking either. Obviously, I could have missed
>     something.
>
>     -- 
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>     but just a van and a few puppies to catch one.
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> Hrm, real or not real,
> faked phototos or someone really got all through there with the bike 
> and all, the real question of importance to the underground would be 
> this:  what are the odds that she her self WAS a cleomancer.  Odds 
> are, she's just who se appears to be and the charge has yet to be 
> harvested as I'm fairly certain there are more normal people then 
> there are Cleomancers... at least, I think so *looks around paranoid*
>
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