[UA] Cliomancy major charges up for grabs.

[graver]

Ya, I'd have to rule that she would actually have to go through the ceremony of visiting the site.  They get their mojo because THEY were there to breath it, touch it, smell it, experiences it.  They become a part of the symbolic worship of the place because, for a second, they are the place as well, and thus, they gain the power that has been focussed onto it.

She could lie all she wanted about being there, make people believe she had been there, but she would have never experience's it for her self, never felt the pressure of a thousand minds upon the place.

However, if she could get her hands on a major charge, she could rewrite history so that she and the universe believed she was there and get that major charge... a fool proof and brilliant plan I say!

Christopher Bedford <xombie-master at hotmail.com> wrote:    P { margin:0px; padding:0px } body { FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY:Tahoma }  While it sounds like a neat trick, I can't help but think it wouldn't get the charge unless she backs it up by actually being there too.  Since magic is self powered, it might do little good to convince everyone that she was there.  Unless she knows she was actually there she won't be getting any charges.

 I could be wrong, I'm still new to this game for the most part.
 
 
 -Christopher
 doktor-xombie.livejournal.com


 
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 > Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2007 17:04:08 -0500
> From: isen0011 at umn.edu
> To: ua at lists.unknown-armies.com
> Subject: Re: [UA] Cliomancy major charges up for grabs.
> 
> I wonder - maybe she was a Clio who was trying an inverse grab of the 
> charge. If she _makes_ everyone think that she has been there, does she 
> get the charge? After all, history is just a matter of perception...
> 
> -Shawn
> 
> graver wrote:
> > */Russell Rayburn <rusrayburn at gmail.com>/* wrote:
> >
> > On 4/3/07, Ben Baer wrote:
> > > My links are a bit sketchy sine I haven't seen this in a couple
> > years. Wiki
> > > offers this ". The accuracy of that story has since been
> > questioned, not
> > > least because motorcycles are specifically forbidden inside the
> > 30km reactor
> > > exclusion zone, which can only be accessed through permanently
> > manned
> > > checkpoints. Chernobyl tour guides and tourists to Chernobyl
> > have claimed
> > > that that Filatova visited the Chernobyl Exclusion Zone only as
> > part of an
> > > organized tour.[1] Chernobyl tour guide Yuriy Tatarchuk recalls that
> > > Filatova "booked a tour, wore a leather biker jacket and posed for
> > > pictures." Her website appeared soon after.[2]"
> > > Neil Gaimans Blog, where I first heard about this has some links
> > to the
> > > debunking
> > >
> > http://www.neilgaiman.com/journal/2004/05/fraud-exposed-and-true-thing.asp
> > > including a link to an Urban Exploration forum where they point
> > out the
> > > inconsistencies in her story, and a couple people who have
> > talked with the
> > > Cherynobyl administration, including the guide who gave Elena
> > her tour.
> > >
> >
> > Heard some of that as well, although the counter argument is Filatova
> > bribed her way in to parts of the exclusion zone. When the authorites
> > ( whom she didn't pay off ) started bitching, she supposedly clamed up
> > to avoid getting anyone in trouble.
> >
> > Also, since her bike is in a few of the shots I suspect she made it
> > into a few places. Yeah, it could be photoshopped, but to my unexpert
> > eye it didn't seem so.
> >
> > Inconsistencies could be explained away as poetic license.
> >
> > Not saying I completely buy it, but I don't think there's enough out
> > there for a full debunking either. Obviously, I could have missed
> > something.
> >
> > -- 
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> > but just a van and a few puppies to catch one.
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> > Hrm, real or not real,
> > faked phototos or someone really got all through there with the bike 
> > and all, the real question of importance to the underground would be 
> > this: what are the odds that she her self WAS a cleomancer. Odds 
> > are, she's just who se appears to be and the charge has yet to be 
> > harvested as I'm fairly certain there are more normal people then 
> > there are Cleomancers... at least, I think so *looks around paranoid*
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