[UA] Daddy?

Jade Hammons xadxevion at gmail.com
Thu Feb 22 23:42:46 PST 2007


Apparently the Pregnant Man channels the Mystic Hermaphrodite...

or did you not read that story ;)


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "James Hardie" <confiscator at hotmail.com>
To: <ua at lists.unknown-armies.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 9:44 PM
Subject: Re: [UA] Daddy?


>
> As far as I recall, there is nothing preventing men from channelling the 
> mother- only the masterless man and the flying Woman are gender exclusive 
> (and personally I wouldn't object to masterless women). Sure a man 
> channelling the Mother can't use one of the channels (since he'll never be 
> pregnant), but that doesn't stop them. As it happens I've encountered 
> almost as many male "mothers" as female ones in my forays into UA- 
> sometimes with an altered channel, most commonly just missing one channel, 
> once with a magickal item that made him seem pregnant (and unbeknownst to 
> him, he was- with snakes) and one who was heavily into medical research in 
> the hopes of a) using science to carry a baby to term and b) creating a 
> baby without an egg, but two sperm, from himself and his life partner.
> That being said more power to those trying to corrupt the archetype into 
> merely the Parent, not that I see it happening soon.
> I also agree with the idea that father's are demagogues or true kings to 
> their children (or occasionally executioners)
>
>>From: graver <graver_13x at yahoo.com>
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>>To: The Unknown Armies RPG Mailing List <ua at lists.unknown-armies.com>
>>Subject: Re: [UA] Daddy?
>>Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 16:13:46 -0800 (PST)
>>
>>heh, I always figured you precluded it due to some kind of "keeping it 
>>pure (to Jung)" thing that might have been going on in the beginning with 
>>the more primitive archetypes.
>>
>>  The way I always saw the lack of a Father archetype was that, in the 
>> past the Father figure was the True King (and sometimes the Demegougue... 
>> or how ever it's spelled)... at least in western tradition post stone 
>> age.  Child birthing, rearing, nurturing, etc, was always a very feminine 
>> role, one reserved for women as they were the ones to create life.
>>
>>  However, in todays world, there is most definitely a paradigm shift 
>> there where the Stay at Home Dad is either bucking for his own seat in 
>> the stars or working to radically redefine the Mother archetype 
>> eliminating the gender specificity... once the old and well entrenched 
>> prehistoric Mother is dethroned that is...
>>
>>Greg Stolze <gregstolze at comcast.net> wrote: The reason there was no Father 
>>archetype was simply that no one had
>>written one up.  I wrote up the Mother in "One Shots" because I
>>needed it for the plot.  I'm kind of glad I didn't do the Father
>>before I became one, though.  I could do it a lot better now.
>>
>>-G.
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